____Pondbrain___________________ 022 . MW3 vs. BF3
Started as a drunk post by me regarding BF3 vs. MW3 and turned into a convo with a buddy. I liked it so much I figured I would post it here. Because I neglect these poor sites so horribly since donations quit coming in compared to before... enjoy! hopefully! <3
Dear Call of Duty and Battlefield fanboys,
Yes, they are both shooters. Lets be fair, lets take the story away. Done? Alright.
What differences are there? Well, in BF3 vs. MW3 we have one difference MW3 has that BF3 doesn't have is the option to swap between 2 different sights on the same gun. They can call in air strikes and shit from imaginary sources that don't exist too.
Lets take a look at what BF3 has that MW3 doesn't.
You can fly aircraft. Jets and Helicopters. You can also drive vehicles on the ground. Tanks, Jeeps and Dune Buggies. And you don't call in air strikes from some fake computer source, you mark shit and people in the air can take it out. Or you can mark it in the air and shit on the ground can lock on it and fire (from certain capable tanks.)
Also there is this crazy thing called Bullet Drop. Actually needing to learn how guns work far beyond MW3. Need to learn even more so what guns, and more so what attachments even more so cause you to need to alter the way you point based on distance to make sure you hit your shit.
Oh, sorry, Call of Duty has Zombie Mode in some of their games. That's nice. It's fun at first, but no matter what you get to the point so many zombies are coming you can't possibly do anything but die. It's a no win scenario. is that fun? I don't really think so.
All battlefields, not just BF3, has destroyable environments. Think you're safe behind that wall in CoD? You're not in a BF game. Can blow that wall away with a rocket. Or a tank. or an air strike from any number of things you can fly.
But no, CoD is better than any BF.
Grow brains retards. Lets not be fucking retarded, alright? Yeah, Call of Duty started off as a bad ass franchise, but lets use our fucking heads when we're trying to talk shit against other games, shall we?
Erik Smithgranted, with an energy suit i'm sure in halo anything is dual wieldable so i guess i have to revoke the halo comment haha
Erik Smithyeah. i've always had a problem with machine guns not having a heat meter in games like the mounted ones do in almost every game. mounted ones do but ones you carry don't? but still. that's my problem with MW3, there's just an insane amount of variation between that and BF3 that it really hurts me too much to stomach it
Erik Smithit's like when you have insane mind blowing sex with by far the hottest person you've ever met in your life... all sex before and after is measured against that. that's BF3 to pretty much all people who have truly played it for weeks enough to really understand. plus, back to just talking bf3 and mw3, i know of literally dozens of people who were transitioned from BF3 to MW3 and can only thiink of a couple who went from BF3 to MW3.... that should say something too, heh..
Eustace Rohtledgeone of the reasons i loved the bioshock series is because of its inovative and refreshing weapons and storyline, the spy stories are old, the zombie stories are old (resident evil), the MGS series still holds my interests a bit, but losing even that slowly, Silent hill could make a good fps, but lets face it you really dont get a gun til towards the end and even then, theres not really enough ammo to substantiate that view, unless you go with the oblivion/morrowind view of holding different melee weapons infront of your face the whole game. as long as theres something new brought to the table i'll spend the 50 to 60 to try it, but dont charge that much if you're just going to literally repackage the same shit from the last game you released as new.
Erik Smithyeah that's part of the reason i was so shocked and actually paid $60 for BF3, I couldn't believe how they pulled off the sound, lighting, destryable environments while keeping the realization so much higher visually than i had seen in any shooter before or since
Erik Smithi should mention the way they pulled off the single player storyline (not counting the jet section).. i played that through a few times AND made a youtube video of the whole campaign of BF3... never done that with a shooter before, not even any of the wolfenstein series..
Erik Smiththough i've played halo 1, 2, seen halo 3 all the way through... don't care enough to go through them again, even counting sci fi storyline in there with it, bf3 wins haha.. from what i've gone through.. i should do the crysis and mass effect games all the way through
Erik Smiththere's some space one, dead space? i think? i've never played it because not being able to zoom in from time to time if you so choose makes me HATE the idea of being stuck with 1/3 or more of your screen taken up by the toon you play, fuck everything about that
Erik Smithi am sadly behind on metal gear games... truly, that is the biggest one i've totally slacked on. last metal gear i played? was on NES. Alex Opal has told me many times that I need to play new metal gears.
Erik Smithehhhh, i've been exposed to so many horror movies and so many of the 2000 and earlier horror games and attempts at horror games that ... i mean, after you've seen enough horror movies.... it all becomes corny, you know? last game to scare me was doom 3, but that was more because i had surround sound and played it start to finish in the dark and was left totally alone the entire time
Erik Smithonly game i've literally had a flashback to, if you've ever played doom3 all the way through, it was directly related to monorails. that should clue you in on what the flashback trigger was. :D
Erik Smithif it had the sound and lighting quality it has now? pretty sure i would have a boner. and ground plus air vehicles? would be hard for them to pull off. like the battlefield 2146 or whatever the fuck year that was... i thought they kinda bombed, though it was fun in an amusing way.. but still... i would give it a shot.
Erik Smithoh a dlc, didn't see that... uhhhhh..... it would have to be some sort of alternate universe totally separate different game... depending on the price, if it was under 30 yeah i'd probably give it a shot
Erik Smithbut as it is i'm not paying for the expansions because the little bit they're adding vs. the price? and the fact they've had not too much lower priced shit just for unlocks you can do yourself for free? i think they're shitting the bed in a big way on expansions/dlcs
one of the big problems that a few forums and game magazines have addressed is that unlike the nes or sega replay, with these online games or games that require update downloads or patches, whats gonna happen once those game companies cut the help and fix departments for those titles? 10 years from now or so, you think if you buy an old ps3 or 360 game and the company that has the fixes and patches doesnt exist anymore, there goes that, it isnt like sonic or mario, itll be well, i guess..ill play what i can since the fixes arent available
Eustace Rohtledgecould you imagine if (back then) contra required a fix or patch for bugs and glitches, and that the game would freeze or could not be completed without them? no one without already having it on their system would ever buy used or play it again
Erik Smithi mean thinking back i remember several games on NES/SNES/N64/Sega/Sega Genesis that had bugs that would fuck your game, but, you learned the few of them that existed and just didn't do it again to get through that part... and like now, virtually if not none of them are such that you can't get through them without patches.. just, sometimes you can find ways to crash / freeze the game
Eustace Rohtledgeyeah, growing up we kinda just said, oh, that door code is broken or that side quest is incomplete, ignore it and carry on with the rest of the game, with maybe a handful of people angry enough to write to nintendo power about it. like its their problem or something.
Eustace Rohtledgetheyve also steered away from external cheat devices, like game genie, code breaker or game shark, even type in cheats you dont see as often. its accomplishments and achievements now if you want god like invincibility and destruction
yep. which is cool for gamers. but most games i really have no desire to spend the time learning and getting through, especially MMOs.. I'd love to see them through but I'm not losing months to them. that's the big downfall to no god mode in a lot of situations. if i can't turn on godmode, chances are i'm never going to see their game. so many games come out a month it's impossible to see them through. the fallout games i first played through on god mode. and now i own fallout 3 game of the year edition and new vegas standard edition. same with almost all of the C&C games. if it wasn't for cheat codes i wouldn't have fallen in love with them and invested money in them. However, there are tons of games i god moded through and have no desire to play, thus am glad i didn't pay for them.
Eustace Rohtledgeits makes you appreciate god mode when you have to earn it, like with resident evil, if you beat the game in a certain ammount of time, or got a high enough end grade (accuracy, completed side quest, number of puzzles completed) as well as what difficulty you were on, you got to use better weapons with infinite ammo or invulnerable. which i guess they relied on for part of the games replay value.
Eustace Rohtledgethe old ones were better, the early buy incentives, for doom 3 if you reserved the collectors edition you got a iD Doom 3 shirt and a collectors guide, which included the full game story script, all concept art and whatnot.
Erik Smithi still think not being able to use trainers on a lot of games really sucks shit... not going to get me to play it by restricting it, they're losing out on people who may end up getting addicted to it